You must log in or register to reply here. Ive had a pretty good experience with the Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals for the last few years, but they hang from a large central column that takes up a lot of space in my office. Can't speak for Virpil as I've got VKB, so disclosure, obviously this is possibly biased opinion. What I've put together is a bit of how I use. The scissors gimbal is not very pleasant around center. You would basically map your joysticks inputs past 32 to a virtual vjoy device then you are all set. It has plenty of hat switches, plus an assortment of triggers that are perfect for games in the IL-2 Sturmovik family or other high-end simulations. Did you a manage to get your bindings for Elite dangerous ? So I accidentally broke my TM Warthog yesterday, not a fun experience. If anyone has alternate suggestions for awesome, high quality flight sticks. No rush though, as we all know its not a quick in out game. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon, By submitting your email, you agree to our, Theres a new challenger in the world of flight sticks and throttles, Sign up for the I don't predict it being a huge game changer, but it's kinda the first time we've had an all metal grip in a high end joystick. I use one from Wavlink and have 7 devices plugged into it with no problems, including a Virpil joystick, a VKB joystick and a Virpil throttle. Looks like the Virpil devices need more power that I have available. I want to choose the best one for nice grip and feel, reaching buttons with s/med hands, good button placement, usability with Elite and SC, easy twisting for yaw and good centring with no drift. Note that youll need two of the Desk Mount V3-S devices for a HOSAS solution using the Virpil Constellation sticks, which brings the price of accessories up to $140. I have the same Virpil throttle. While the input devices alone are excellent, Virpil also has a line of surprisingly affordable custom mounting solutions. Elite also won't recognize any button inputs that are greater than #32. The only other thing up in the same price and perhaps build quality (I don't truly know about them either other than what I've read here, they're trying at least) is Winwing but their stick option is much more limited in overall controls. * Gunfighter Mk.III is to be released, "soon". Please note you will lose the axis on the brake lever that comes with the Virpil grip, as the Warthog grip only supports button press on that lever. Ace pedals also have a much better mounting solution, in my opinion, compared to the TPR pedals. Only set up a profile for each device with the other unplugged. If you use the Virpil software there's an option somewhere to divide number of controls into groups of 32. You can blame Microsoft Flight Simulator for the flight stick shortage were experiencing. Plus half of what I would need from VKB is out of stock. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. I have a good comparison of VKB and Virpil looking at the Modern Combat Grip (Their other premium grip, recently being re-released in an all-metal build) and the Constellation-Alpha, and they perform nearly identical in my opinion.. My personal experience with VKB's Kosmosima grip (the grip that comes in their MK3 space combat edition package) is very negative. I use Joystick gremlin, so elite can see all the buttons on the throttle. If you fly helos, you will fall in love with this. Virpil has the better engineers. A lot cheaper and for someone that isn't hardcore into tons of flying will be more than sufficient. Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. But now Im able to use the two sticks twist axes to handle strafing (right) and moving up and down (left). Outline:0:00 - First impressio. Oh, and to actually answer your question: both the virpil constellation and vkb kosmosima are fantastic. I have zero complaints about it. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. I have an in-depth write up here. This unique state of art device is already out of "development" phase, and is currently entering "preparation for serial production". > Tutorials and everything HOTAS related. If I had to choose one it would be an Alpha L or R whichever was needed, and as a pair Virpil arguably makes the best HOSAS you can get. Hey everyone, i know this has been a few times but i cant find anything that the exact specs im looking at so im going to ask anyway. HOTAS (hands on throttle and sticks) First post here. > DIY Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I've taught myself how to use Virpil software, but the VKB software looks much more complex and the documentation seems lacking (translated) with many features only described in forum posts. The VKB base has some nice features the Virpil base doesn't have (dampers) and overall just rates a bit higher in terms of quality/performance. They are both superb bits of kit though and you will not regret buying either. Even basic assembly drove me out to YouTube where I spent hours freeze-framing foreign language unboxing videos to find out which screw goes where. I'm not an expert by any stretch, I only intend to use this for Elite Dangerous. Second, know that the current incarnation of the Virpil throttle box may simply be too much for most users. ED doesn't 'see' any controllers using the bindings files, check whether you can actuallly bind any of the controls to an action and then create your own bindings file. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn34PHd34x4, Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8odaH98Yms. Jmo VKB vs Thrustmaster T16000M Ken Cikas 1.4K subscribers Subscribe 20K views 3 years ago Put about 170 hours into Elite Dangerous and this T16000M from Thrustmaster is about done so I. https://1drv.ms/p/s!AuHD2NL7qn3w3gxZVfByQOacohmx?e=RhWkjj. Its high-end equipment is currently in stock. 12V/7.5A. > Sales Press J to jump to the feed. After nearly a decade of watching modest, incremental improvements in the space its nice to see a manufacturer innovating with their flight sticks. What little product is actually available even used equipment is going for wildly inflated prices. VIRPIL hardware key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out, https://virpil.freshdesk.com/en/supes/47000029808-vpc-software-quick-start-guide, HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick - Thrustmaster - Technical support website, https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/controls-not-sticking.558432/#post-8792964. Your right, MFG's have been on the market longer than the Virpil Ace's, but I couldn't identify a lot of difference, except maybe some of the adjustments you can make on the MFG's that you can't make on the Virpil pedals. I saw Vjoy mentioned as a solution but it seems to be half of the solution because it seems to require another program to virtually map the physical device (in this case a throttle). I have a Virpil setup. I can't speak for Virpil's interiors but I've been inside the grip on my VKB and the way they use independent little boards with pin receptacles to link things together on the Kosmo Premium is amazing, and would be very easy to obtain parts for repair if only one control were to fail for any reason. 2012-2022 1C Game Studios | 1-777 Limited, 32 Kritis Street, Papachristoforou Building, 4th Floor, 3087 Limassol, Cyprus. Good news for fans of Microsoft Flight Simulator, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen. The right-hand stick still has complete control of pitch and yaw, while rudder pedals handle roll. It has about twice as many buttons as Microsoft Windows recognizes on a game controller, which means youll need to take some extra time to get it tuned before you hop into a game. My own conclusion was that VKB is around 10% cheaper and 99% as good as Virpil. All rights reserved, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS3OC6-CBv4. When you run the Virpil Joystick tester, do all the analog axes and button inputs show up? I will look for that in VPC config software. I currently have a T.16kM HOTAS setup and am looking to upgrade the flightstick first and eventually move over to a HOSAS setup. Where as the constellation/kosmosima grips where designed with twisting in mind. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm in a similar boat to you. After correspondence with Virpil I have to load and create a profile for each device individually, one at a time. Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. I can say you really can go wrong either way you go. First, the documentation on these products ranges from awful to non-existent. And every one but a single dial is bound. Sign up for a new account in our community. I found a couple of programs like this but some of them are no longer . It may not display this or other websites correctly. (e.g. Previously, those functions sat on a tiny hat switch on my throttle. Take my advice - before starting, enter into the map all the switch and button numbers from the Virpil test program because when you look in the ED keybindings, that's what will show. They strike a good balance between price point and feature set, sitting comfortably in between classics like the Logitech X-52 and the Thrustmaster T16000, and higher end products from Thrustmaster and VKB. > Reviews Gladiator is out of stock in Europe, Virpil say there is a back order on their stuff. I plan on positing a review of the mcg ultimate once I receive it (should be getting it later this week hopefully) if you're curious. It took me 6 months before I could get my order in for the Alpha. There are all sorts of advice guides on how to optimise your chances. So, just to make sure I have this strait, MCG is the 'Modern Combat' Gunfighter stick and the Kosmosima is the 'Space Combat' edition of the gunfighter? Very close to the real thing (comparing it to C-130J and A400M controls). Lastly if you have any thoughts please let me know as i know for some spending this kind of money is easy but for its hard for me as now that i have a young family money isnt just failing out of my wallet and i want to make the right purchase as i can barely afford to do it once. What 'limit' are you talking about? I mostly play Elite Dangerous in VR and they have been fantastic for this with so many buttons and axis. Thank you for all the suggestions. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. I read a few posts about which is best but most people commenting have not used both to really compare. I love both sets but have settled on an MCG Gunfighter with T-rudders and the Virpil throttle. Also the virpil stick might cost more as i have read that somepeople buying it in Australia have had to pay GST (tax) on it. If so, how and what programs? Virpil's software isn't very intuitive. Unfortunately, they're a way down the list now. VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a . If youre stuck on Microsoft Flight Simulator especially the big commercial airliners give Honeycomb Aeronautical a try. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. Money isn't really an issue for me. Edit: Didn't realize that winwing sticks were metal. September 8, 2019 in Hardware, Software and Controllers. Ive been taking it for a test drive on my custom-built flight rig. You can watch some youtube teardowns and see that VKB pays attention to the internals in a really impressive way. Theyre also beautifully powder coated, and come with all the bolts you need to make the attachment to the Constellation. Generally you will find that Virpil is considered the top dog in the mid-range sim gear bracket. I would think it should be enough. It will also likely have the same kind of impact when Elite Dangerous: Odyssey launches later this year, adding first-person, on-foot gameplay to that spacefaring game. So just swap grips and flash firmware for the. 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Overall, I'd recommend VKB for quality and performance. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. And just last night the plastic peg for one of the hat switches snapped. You can also remove about an inch of height from the pedals, stripping off the rubber feet and the entire lower frame, to attach them directly to a custom flight seat. You might want to look for something with versatility since a lot of REALLY nice sticks try to fit specific requirements, like DCS OR ELITE rather than DCS AND ELITE. 4 - what grip do people think is better the T-50 or the alpha? Hub 3.0 Powered 90W Data Hub, Multiport 16 Port Powered 12V/7.5A Adapter Still getting the 'need to remove some devices '. Ok yes the firmware and software was installed. Right now my mind is still on a throttle rather than 2 sticks and I'm looking at either the Virpil MongoosT or the VKB one that is allegedly coming in a couple of months. If you go with a HOTAS solution instead, making use of one of Virpils fully-customizable throttle boxes, youll need a slightly larger version of the clamp and a special adapter plate. By It features a. I'd love to mount to desk but I don't have the space for a permanent setup and need to be able to move my controllers out of the way easily. 2 - is virpil worth the extra $200+ more and a very long wait. I have an idea from my previous setup, but never really got round to completing it for Exploring and even negotiation of the galaxy map, I need to sort this finally as Im using an old DK2 VR and must stop the temptation to use my keyboard, or mouse. What do you mean by splitting axes? The impact was especially prominent in Star Citizen, which has much faster ships and far more aggressive combat. The VKB base has some nice features the Virpil base doesn't have (dampers) and overall just rates a bit higher in terms of quality/performance. The ideal base for Warthog - a heavy(~1KG) grip plus extension is T50CM2. It's easy! Just wish they would have shipped with more replacement parts if they're so prone to breaking under regular usage. Just use the Virpil configuration software, click the box for split by 32 buttons on the profile page and calibrate it. I just received my left handed Virpil Alpha and its one of the best gaming peripherals Ive ever had. Me personally I plan to upgrade to mcg ultimate with the gf mkIII base from vkb, when they come out for people who dont already have gf base in February. I have both and for me the VKB just wins out. All rights reserved VKB offers an adapter that has to replace the stock connector/pinout in the grip. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. It was a bit of a process to pull apart my two kosmosima grips to fish out the good peg and slap it into my right hand stick, but I'm starting to get a little miffed with the durability of some of these small components. Virpil is a more competitive option if you want to use TM grips out of the box (but you could just buy a VKB adapter and do the same or a WinWing base). I've gone back to a single, non-split profile, still nada on any of the three axes . It may take time. I will try them. Gonna sound real silly but I miss the days of walking into a electronics shop and being able to actually try the feel of the sticks out. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/request-for-more-than-32-buttons-virpil-throttle.443129/page-4. I've been lucky enough to have purchased of a Virpil CM2 throttle and a Constellation Alpha on Warbird base and I think they are fantastic! Maybe I have too many devices plugged in. Yes I followrd their guide. Valve Corporation. I think that there's a good chance that the Gunfighter + mcg ultimate will take the spot as best consumer joystick on the market. VIRPIL hardware - key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out The VKB software also allows an enormous amount of customization like a shift key action to double up on everything or (what I find sufficient) a 'tempo' function so a quick tap vs. a longer press has 2 different operations for buttons or certain hat positions. I've spent the last couple of days researching all this so here is my thought process which may also help with your decision. My advice, of course, is to give the scalpers a wide berth. Privacy Policy. They needed a bolt tightening inside to get rid of the wobble. Still other manufacturers are taking pre-orders, and then banging out new units as quickly as they can. Try contacting vkb about the broken parts, depending on how old your stick is, I've seen people post on here that they just sent them a bunch of parts to repair failed items. It works perfectly with all buttons. And, just like everyone else, Virpils stuff is on backorder as well. If I want to upgrade in the future I can just buy the Gunfighter base and use the kosmosima stick (If VKB follow through and actually let you buy bases separately). Both can be gotten with twist. Both the MCG (right hand only) grip and Kosmosima Premium (left or right) have plenty. newsletter. I do find VKB to do much nicer and cleaner internal work which matters if or when you have to open up your grip. Also, I did notice some defective materials in the batch of products that I received. All rights reserved. Everything I've ever bought from VKB has been spot on out of the box. See our ethics statement. Elite will not show a profile that specifically names the Virpil hardware. I received it in just over 4 weeks too, just a day before Christmas! My experience with these sticks is in a HOSAS setup (With the MCG being part of my old HOTAS), so there may be some "synergy" for HOTAS binding considerations that might sway one way or another for the MCG vs Constellation. You'll see I haven't even mapped the 2nd choice analog features of the top MCG hat on the right hand, ran out of needalso have some repeats left and right in case I get confused in heat of moment. It may show you something you did wrong. The MCG Pro also has the brake axis and technically the flip-up trigger is ALSO an axis although more often used as a couple of different buttons. Question on the VKB customization software? 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