Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. CINDY: Um hmm. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. We just want her to be identified.'. If youre very sensitive to that sort of thing (I know that much of my audience is ) then you may wish to skip this one. When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. CINDY: The garage was opened. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. CINDY: On the corner of Fourth and Denali. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. It turned into a cat and mouse chase. CINDY: Well, I didnt. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. ): And we pulled over to the side, by the side of the house, and I proceeded to give him a blowjob. Donations & Patreon membership will go towards keeping this site running. This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. He never learned her real name, he said. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your Dont worry. FLOTHE: OK. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? You know, I was supposed to meet him. Thats what it takes for teams to bring their best selves to work every day.. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. It had a long barrel. A woman accused Hansen of rape in 1971, even as he awaited trial in a separate incident for following a stranger to her Spenard home and trying to kidnap her at gunpoint, according to Anchorage Daily News reports at the time. And he suggested that we could go to his place. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? FLOTHE: OK. Normally, people try avoiding that. It was smooth. CINDY: Um hmm. Its way down on the bottom. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. Hudgens: I think that theyre doing one. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. And so, I was guided along very beautifully by them. FLOTHE: Friday morning. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. CINDY: I knew I was in trouble. Cause that was the smallest he had. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Black or brown? FLOTHE: I hope not. FLOTHE: OK. It just felt (inaudible) and he pulled the gun out and that time he had handcuffs on my hands and I couldnt get the door open. 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See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. And, uh, I called back to her the next the next day or some oth or day or two afterwards. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. CINDY: Yeah. So, that was nice. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? So he shows up Sunday night, then. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. That seemed to be a common enough thing to do, plenty of troubled Americans had moved to Alaska to start a new life, and this worked out splendidly for Robert! The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. This led to her becoming known by many as 'Horseshoe Harriet' within the state's medical examiner's office. On June 13, 1983, Hansen offered 17-year-old Cindy Paulson $200 to perform oral sex; when she got into the car, he pulled out a gun and drove her to his home in Muldoon. "Good riddance to him.". FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? I operated behind a work persona. FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? Only a dozen bodies were located. While she was in her element, developing regional client solutions with diversely talented teams, she realized that her clients and many colleagues did not know much about her personal life. He remains active in the markets. He liked to take these women home with him, and once a victim had entered this killers lair she was pretty much doomed; he would take her down to the basement, often to a secret soundproof room where he already had chains rigged up. CINDY: It was a really dark color. And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. People either loved it or they hated it. At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. He doesnt mess around. Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. Were the lights on or off? Women were tortured, beaten and assaulted before being blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs and told to run. Required fields are marked *. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. FLOTHE: Wasnt painted. The Butcher Baker Minisode. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. FLOTHE: Now you mentioned this airplane seat. CINDY: Uh huh. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. (pause) Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. FLOTHE: Like this? Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. FLOTHE: Number five. How was the directing process with Scott Walker? FLOTHE: Turning the tape off at 8:34 pm. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. Then on the night, and when this I guess, really began, uh, I met her up town after, well, on the Saturday, CINDY:(Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. He used it to stab her in the back, he said. And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. FLOTHE: Did he approach you or did you approach him? CINDY: It wasnt painted. I absolutely adore him. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. Despite his growing rap sheet, Hansen escaped notice when Anchorage women soon began to disappear. FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. Though Cindy was able to describe her attacker and his home in great detail, it didnt make any difference. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. Its very specific and unique, and its that type of film. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. Previously I would avoid the conversation about my significant other, she says. "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. Facebook gives people the power to. CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). Apparently youre bothered by this? Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, We all have the same needs. She is known for her incredible homemade bars that she shares with riders while they enjoy the scenic views of nature along the trail. Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. What was your reaction when you first read the script? Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. John Paulson. My left wrist, right there Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. I mean OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. I wanted everyone to see that were all the same. Instead he would immediately force her to board his small bush plane, and hed fly her out to a desolate area near Knik River where he would sexually assault her in a little shack which hed occupied there. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. CINDY: No. But he had brown socks on. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. All rights reserved. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. "We nabbed him before he could do any damage to anyone.". CINDY: OK. She left the ADN in October 2018. The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. CINDY: OK. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. When will it be released? CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. CINDY: Yep. Growing up Robert was scrawny, he had this terrible stutter, and a super bad case of acne; all of this made him the target of bullies everywhere. They told Hansen they had seized his map marked with 17 locations, spots that they believed indicated the locations of bodies. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This looks black but its actually blue. Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). CINDY: Uh huh. Vanessa Hudgens Talks THE FROZEN GROUND, Meeting the Real Cindy Paulson, MACHETE KILLS, GIMME SHELTER, and THE KITCHEN SINK. And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. I mean, man, what he did to me, he had to kill me. Published: 09:00 GMT, 4 September 2014 | Updated: 01:18 GMT, 4 December 2016, Alaskan serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed 17 women in the early 1970s and 80s. To the left is the basement. CINDY: I dont think so. He intended to do the same with Cindy on June 13, 1983. This is a very intense film. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. (inaudible) In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. And who showed you those pictures? Did he have a moustache, Cindy? Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walkers suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of the few victims that managed to escape Alaskas most notorious serial killer, Robert Hansen (John Cusack). FLOTHE: An older car. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. It was super fun and really quick. Psychology tells us that we all process things differently things that you may be able to shrug off, incidents which may make you stronger and more determined could emotionally break someone else quite literally. Cindy coughs.) The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. Four door. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! You know, like mine is. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) He was a natural leftie, but forced to become right handed. CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than FLOTHE: In your face? I need a cheap laptop, microphones, etc. This is Sunday night or early Monday morning? Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. CINDY: Sunday. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. CINDY: Up to the house. Brown shoes. Required fields are marked *. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. It had never crossed her mind. The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. FLOTHE: Youre pointing at Figure Number 21. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. He was right to worry, state officials later said. CINDY: On. You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. I chatted there with her a little bit and, uh, made an agreement with her that I was going to see her sometime. One night she picked up a small, skinny client with a pock-marked face who wore glasses and spoke with a stutter.
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