Every CL which sneak at you can pen you for days. WG!!! Quick Summary: A tier VII, prototype version of the North Carolina-class battleship with twelve 356mm guns instead of nine 406mm guns. She's highly accurate but her guns don't hit very hard, even for 356mm rounds. On top of this, she's super squishy. In their past 10 matchups, the Panthers are 6-4-0 to earn 80.0% of the possible points. All of Arizona's decks are 26mm). She just isn't a must-have in my fleet, which for me makes her a don't-buy. Trouble is, I don't insist on such a ship being American; if I want a ship which does the things Florida does, I have KGV and Lyon. CV's - they are basically always going to be stuck with one optimized skill choice. She conforms to the norms for American battleships. I do so hope they finally understand how important an active, vocal gaming community is to a game such as WoWS., Thanks for sharing a bit of history with us., Awesome retrospective. It could be worse, I suppose. For randoms it looks like she is a really tough ship to play, but what about Operations like Narai?, I give this rating 5 out of 10. The totals have gone OVER in 7 of Queens' 11 last games at home. Are California's main battery guns better than Arizona's? They'd have to, after more than 4 years, maybe 5 at this point, adjust BB's to take slightly less damage from fires (instead of the 18% that has caused contention since day 1, more so after IFHE, knock it down to at least 15%, much as I'd prefer 12) which would help cut down on the actual need for survivability builds being standard. In closing, I should stress again: Florida is fine. She's not broken. There will be some people who really dig her sniper game play. I'm not one of those people. I like to have the option of getting in close and hitting people with my sword. Florida doesn't let me do that. Instead, it's so much thinned out swill with a rancid aftertaste, leaving you to wonder what could have been. In short, my guess is that Florida will do great in the only Tier 7 OP we currently have, although there are better choices. However, California's an important release and, more pressingly, I don't feel she's a good ship. This is the first meeting of the season between the two programs both coming off of big, emotional wins. Queens are 2-3 in their last 5 games. This is how ALL of your people should think! Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. She would have felt immediately tankier but still vulnerable to higher tiered ships. However, I do not love Arizona so much that I think cloning her game play and asking people to pay a premium price tag for a tier VII version is right. Florida has access to two different camouflage patterns. By default, she comes with Type 10 Camouflage. However. How likely your shells are to do damage if they do hit. What's more, California does not offer anything novel in the way of game play short of having better AA firepower. Summary so far: California's concealment is meant to be her saving grace. Good anti-aircraft firepower, including access to. The following is a review of California, the tier VII American battleship. This ship has been provided to me by Wargaming for evaluation purposes - I want to head off any impulse purchases and warn players that they're not getting a ship worthy of California's name. Hood is listed without DFAA active, just know that the numbers shown here jump by 50% when she pulls the trigger. There's nothing too surprising about California's options. Nothing can touch California, though, which sits smack in the middle of the tier VIII American BB range, rubbing elbows with Alabama, North Carolina and everyone's favourite: Massachusetts. The perks they gave her to compensate, namely good AA, nice range, good concealment and more accurate guns, don't cut the mustard for me. I swear, she posts these right when I'm off to work now to give other people a chance to reply first :P. Take this review lightly. As nice as the raw penetration values are on Florida, she doesn't have a lot to spare once you aim at battleships in excess of 15km out. Using the usual tricks of aiming for softer sections of the hull can help, especially given Florida's reasonably tight dispersion to ensure good groupings. This helps somewhat, but again, angling is very effective against Florida's guns because she doesn't overmatch a whole lot of armour. I find california to have more of a culture than florida. With a base 900m advantage over Arizona, this is supposed to facilitate not only engaging the enemy but escaping from difficult situations. Deposit $200, Get $250. Wow California is finally upon us? Great work as always, Mouse! Uses the improved battlecruiser dispersion instead of that of American battleships. And foodfor thought as I review my Steam summertime queue to see where best to spend my $. WG executive 1: "Hmm, not enough suckers are buying this new ship. This doesn't look like a good ship at all. You are usually not shot at by much due to how target selection of bots works, so Florida's armor won't be a big issue even with the short combat range in OPs. Florida man, Florida man Guess the tune. Florida Scoring. After an impressive week that saw the Tigers go 3-1-1, Auburn begins a new week by welcoming in Florida A&M to Plainsman Park for a Along with either A: removing IFHE or B: changing DCP and Repair Party to have slightly faster CD's and Repair Party to fix more pen damage if IFHE stays. I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this graphic. This speaks a lot to how badly the skill system needs to be reworked given how optimized skill choices have become, That would be great - but they'd have to actually fix the gameplay and change some ships to actually get us to a point there isn't just one optimized loadout.. California is a hard pass. Looking at the charts, i'm surprised how average Poltava is. Landing citadel hits against enemy battleships tends to fall off at ranges over 14km or so, but you should still be able to land penetrating hits through most belts you'll encounter. Her top speed of 27 knots is completely acceptable for a tier VII battleship. 4 minutes ago, General_Lee_Miserable said: 27 minutes ago, General_Lee_Miserable said: Florida (on the left) using a standard dispersion test. This is 180 AP shells fired at a stationary Fuso bot. Shots are coming in from the left to right (Fuso is bow-tanking). California is on the right with the same parameters. The most pressing thing to worry about when playing Florida is her citadel. Unlike the other "sniper" battleships like Slava and Champagne, the "softness" of Florida's hull is barely a concern. The 25mm extremities which damn her higher tiered cousins do not apparently have a lower-tier equivalency. I was expecting Florida to appear with 19mm of extremity armour but she instead clones the higher tiered ship weakness with 25mm instead. Given that all of the other tier VI and VII battleships are rocking 26mm worth of extremity plate, the loss of a single millimeter is not that much of a drawback. At most, this makes Florida slightly more vulnerable to HE shells from small and medium caliber guns -- specifically 152mm HE shells from tiers VII and below do not need to reach for Inertial Fuse for HE Shells in order to stack direct damage against Florida as they would against her tier-mates. Similarly, Florida is vulnerable to 120mm HE shells with Inertial Fuse for HE Shells. That's really the extent this soft skin provides in terms of vulnerability. Otherwise her superstructure, upper hull and amidships deck all conform to normal parameters for a tier VII battleship. This picture is the best thing I could think ofto illustrate CA's introduction to WoWs. The final difference is cost. I have 2 battles in it in randoms but only because I've been playing a lot of ranked plus grinding out the Minnesota. Fair enough. Granted I have California too (mostly due to 1. Historical Ship and 2. Native Californian) but she is a slow girl relegated to sitting There's a stigma against lower-calibre guns for having poor penetration performance and this is largely undeserved. American 356mm AP shells, for example, have very good penetration and Florida's is improved even beyond this. She is capable, for example, of penetrating upwards of 400mm worth of plate at 15km. She has more than enough punch to land citadel hits against just about any broadside target, including some of the softer-skinned battleships up to ranges of 20km. So you don't need to worry about Florida not having enough teeth to citadel an Iowa in most encounters, should the opportunity arise. I stress the word opportunity, however.. Pow Wows In Your State Pow Wows in California Redbird's 21st Children of Many Colors Intertribal Pow Wow 2023 Jun 2 - Jun 4, 2023 - Oxnard CA experience with Arizona down at tier VI. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s. California's shells have higher muzzle velocity. For them and cruisers, reduced spotting time after firing is long over due. WHEN: Monday, Feb. 27, 7 p.m. In their past 10 matchups, the Panthers are 6-4-0 to earn 80.0% of the possible points. I wanna gloat like a happy teaboo, but Florida's health is just too appallingly low for me for me to brag with good conscience. Her lacking an entire Repair Party charge just feels mean. I give this rating 5 out of 10. Coz no mehbote to gudbote rating, except angry anime girl gif Time to re-use a graphic because battleship skill optimization has stagnated! As much as I need a break right now, USS California is a big enough name to elicit sales simply merely by reputation. Sadly, Florida's HE are lacking. Their modest damage per-shell and slow reload might not be such a bad handicap if their fire chance was better, but her fire chance per shell is horrible. The 22% value she's shackled with is downright painful for such a slow rate of fire. Getting one permanent fire to burn is a feat, never mind doubling up. Her HE performance is so bad that I would happily recommend sticking with AP spam if it weren't for the aforementioned issue with angled and higher-tiered targets. It's stupid-important to be patient with your shots. Look for opportune targets where you can maximize her AP efficiency. You don't want to have to start spamming HE. Similarly, you don't want to force encounters where this is your sole option. Florida doesn't have the armour or hit points to facilitate trades against same-tier (or even tier VI) opponents. Blapping a full broadside of HE into an enterprising lolibote is hilarious, don't get me wrong -- her improved accuracy means that she easily can land four to six shells (or more!) Now it's just a reminder of how much potential is wasted in the current meta. Arizona sits just behind California in AP and HE DPM, but not so much that you'll notice in most cases. Most of her teeth come from her 40mm Bofors and 20mm Oerlikons, barring a CV being gracious enough to face-plant into a flak-cloud. These do not survive long under HE fire and even cursory smattering of HE rounds will quickly reduce the effectiveness of her AA and open her up to the potential of air-attack. This means the moment you touch their rudder, they dump their speed faster than a tweaked-out college student having their dorm inspected. Most, if not all,also need their alpha nerfed slightly so they aren't deleting cruisers quite the same way they are now (enough that basically instead of say 2 citadels and 4 overpens to destroy a cruiser you'd need 2-3 of those overpens to be solid hits). Summary so far: California has absolutely amazing AA levels. She has greatly improved anti-aircraft firepower and she's more stealthy. According to FBI data, there were a total of 1.3 million violent offenses reported in 2020, or 388 for every 100,000 people -- a 5% increase from 2019. The Tigers got monster performances from a pair of standouts in Angel Reese and Jasmine Carson, who each scored 25 points in a win that saw them walk away holding Remember when they said rebuiled West Virginia would be to powerful at tier7. The Soviets infamously have it too. Oh no you didn't! Below, we analyze Tipico Sportsbooks lines around the North Carolina vs. Florida State odds, and make our expert college basketball picks, predictions and bets.. North She's missing an ice-breaker bow like the aforementioned German ships. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. Thank you for the preemptive warning, I mean review on this one. This picture is the best thing I could think of to illustrate CA's introduction to But that requires changes well beyond the skill tree, because if we went back 4+ years - sure Germany would still be king of secondary builds with it's 15 cm guns, but French and even ships like Mass would terrorize DD's and cruisers pushing in to caps with secondaries only worried about not getting torped for sailing in a straight line than 152 mm raining death from behind an island - unless it was aiming at the superstructure. The problem with simply looking at DPM charts is that it assumes everything is not only 100% accurate, but also that all shells perform equally when they strike a target. It patently ignores two crucial elements: As Roma so painfully demonstrated, you can have gorgeous paper stats but if you simultaneously struggle to (a) hit a target and (b) get anything other than over-penetrations, then your experience is going to be hella inconsistent. Florida has her own struggles, but at least she's very consistent when it comes to landing hits. Florida uses battlecruiser dispersion -- the same found on ninja-accurate battleships like Thunderer. Sadly, this isn't paired with a god-tier sigma value. Florida has 1.7 sigma competed to 1.9 of Thunderer or 2.0 of Champagne, so she doesn't feel quite so accurate as some of the higher-tiered snipers. The lower sigma means that the occasional shell will still fly wonky, though the smaller dispersion area means this won't be as wildly askew as other ships. In short: Florida's accuracy is good. You should land more hits per volley than her contemporaries which should help mitigate some of her DPM issues -- not all of them, but some. I love playing Arizona but i won't pay to have it at tier 7. The Napoli is based on a preliminary design from Ansaldo for the Soviet Project 22 Heavy cruiser. If you swapped out Florida's 25mm bow and stern for 26mm versions, she'd be a perfectly normal tier VII battleship. California is a beautiful port queen that doesn't live up to her fantastic history. She can contribute. If I can help others avoid that, I will. Simply tragic. This is why I frown on a difference of 0.1 sigma being used as a selling feature -- it's a "spreadsheet" value that will affect a ship over the course of several games but isn't likely to be significant within a single match. In World of Warships, Florida represents the design XVI-C if the North Carolina-class would have ever been built this way. She also presents the same battlecruiser characteristics as Champagne and Slava with an improved dispersion but lighter armor than other battleships at her tier. Both wins and 109k average damage. You probably want Expert Marksman over Adrenaline Rush on your first pass. See Full The property tax in Florida averages at 0.98% whereas in California it is 0.73%. Florida's citadel layout tells you all you really need to know about this ship's durability. The TL:DR is that her citadel abuts against the exterior of her hull and it sits above the waterline. With only 285mm worth of belt protection, this exposed "T-section" of her citadel is stupid-easy to bullseye for waterline-aimed shots from enemy battleships. For 380mm+ AP shells aimed at her bows, her transverse bulkhead is almost as vulnerable. The dark red is 343mm thick while the orange strip at the bottom is where it tapers to 273mm. Ships with stars have been changed or added since patch 0.9.6. This ship has been provided to me by Wargaming for evaluation purposes -- I did not have to pay for this thing, which is a good thing because I would have felt offended had I shelled out money for this horribly mistreated piece of history. They need to get rid of that junk mod they added that makes it all torps are spotted at 1.8 km cause especially against slower torps, like USN's, there's almost no excuse to not dodge torps if you take it. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. WebUpcoming Pow Wows Indigenous Institute of the Americas 16th Annual IIAmericas Celebration 2022 Mar 31 - Apr 2, 2023 - Cleburne TX March 31 - April 2, 2023 Honoring Indigenous Cultures, Dance and Art FRIDAY 4-9pm - Gourd Dance SATURDAY 10am - 7pm Children's Pow Wow InterTribal More Information Mascoutin Society Winter Social You can see just how massive her 35mm anti-torpedo bulges are. Her improved dispersion via sigma will only be apparent over the course of multiple games rather than individual matches. Ostensibly, this should allow her to disengage more easily by holding fire but let's not kid ourselves into imagining that she can escape pursuit. If they don't want people comparing her to Arizona, Arizona needs to be pulled. Tip from Donald L. Tucker Center is at 7 p.m. So California has good concealment! heh), and overall they tend to start fires quite a bit. For me she simply, "clicks". Results will vary. Overall, the ships are very comparable in terms of their protection and durability. Please be aware that her performance may change in the future. One of those was a T8 battle and one a T9.. California's AP shells have higher penetration. Florida basketball got back on the winning track on Tuesday night with a 77-67 win over the Georgia Bulldogs on the road in the penultimate regular-season game for the Gators. The Florida at tier VII is based on the North Carolina-class of battleships as it was initially designed. After World War I, to stop the naval arms race that was raging between the different nations, multiple treaties were signed, including the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922 and the Second London Naval Treaty of 1936. The Jaguars have not played a game with moneyline odds of -320 or shorter. I think she's too soft to be good enough to be a true BB and that makes it doubly hard when paired at top or mid tier where you are expected to be the beater for your team. Florida's upgrade choices are pretty dull. Despite constant suggestions to give her improved accuracy and/or range on her secondaries, Wargaming wouldn't budge on keeping them standardized. That just makes her easy meat for enterprising lolibotes. Louisiana: $2,546. He approached me about my frustrations with Club Wargaming and he took an active leadership role among the various content creators to approach Wargaming about our complaints. It was by his initiative that the WGNA CC-program took shape under NikoPower (of CorgiFleet fame). From those conversations, @iChase, @NoZoupForYou, @Notser, @TitiuBlack, Critter8 and I became the first NA-CCs in early January of 2016. While I could gush endlessly about everything NikoPower did for us, it was Critter8 who stands out as the leader we needed. He brought the six of us would-be professionals (with integrity) together. But the winter surge slammed California, and that gap narrowed to 11%. They are phoenixes that rose from the ashes of Pearl Harbor. For me, Lyon is the best BB for Narai, Ashitaka being the second, due to their speed and DPM. Oh well, missed opportunities. Long range is nice, so flex those aiming skills you've acquired, but her gun caliber and long reload will largely limit the impact this has. Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. 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