Anything else?Thank you. Try a different air rifle for the money! i know that i will be able to pump up the gun, and i still dont want the co2 392, my mom is trying to get an izh 61 or benjamin 392 for me for Christmas (she found a Benjamin 392 but she couldnt see the pump handle! If Im wrong, and the leading is beneficial to the brass barrel, please let me know. After running the numbers, a 10.6 grain Kodiak in .177 at 1000 FPS has a higher FPE than a 15.8 grain JSB Diabolo in .22 at 685 FPS. Looks a bit toy-like at first, until you fire it. so i was wondering is this site a good place to order it from. after placing a few shots after the windage or elevation pieces are set. The quality, I'm sad to say, is lacking. my benjamin 392 seems to hold air but wont fire. I know they do offer services like mounting scopes, so there is a strong possibility they will mount this sight for you. One spot was the balance point, the second was on the edge of the pump lever (my hand was completely on the lever). My 392 model is equipt with the Air-Venturi mount system (over the bolt) with the same model BSA scope. I just got a 392 Limited Editionand Im considering either a peep or red dot. : I just became interested in air guns this past week. Your observations deserve some follow-up. . Add a peep sight!One really nice upgrade is the Crosman 64 peep sight. But, if youre not planning to hunt, the 397 is your best bet. I happen to own an AS392T and I like it a lot. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. By the way, .20 caliber guns are in jeopardy for the same reason. Pyramyd Air provides it as a service to their customers, but Crosman will not recognize it. A .22 scope will work on your airgun, but .22 scopes are notoriously cheap. This rifle definitely brings me back. Pellgunoil may work, but I would use it only in a pinch. so low that the front sight is just below the slot in the rear site. Three pumps would be about right if you have a safe bullet trap and backstop. New, All-weather synthetic Stock and fore grip, DURABLE - Synthetic all-weather stock and foregrip, VARIABLE PUMP - Control the range of speed. It may not be legal to hunt them with an airgun. At close range (under 20 yards) they are fine, but I would use a diabolo at longer ranges. Thats the air getting sucked in. could this wreck or bend or cave in the barrel after time? wow. I havent tried them in a 392, but I have tested them at distance extensively in an AirForce Talon SS. Can you reccomend a good repair shop to send my gun to for repair? It was missing the trigger and a gentleman in INdiana replaced it. i pumped it too much before (i know its bad). Could you suggest any repair shops in the vicinity of Oklahoma for these repairs? Yes, the forearm goes all the way up with every pump stroke. I was now getting 2 inch groupings! I dont have to do word verification and Blogger still loses some of my comments. Unable to add item to List. Im getting sub 1 inch groups in the center of the bulls eye at 20 yards at 8 pumps with a peep sight using gamo hunters. My wife got it as a gift for me. To 8 pumps, that is; Im following your advice to keep 1 or 2 during storage between sessions. A peep is placed close to the eye for greater precision. wrote in 2005. Thanx. bbp, this is a site you and pyramid sould be linked from: http://www.eatel.net/~amptech/elecdisc/rifledemos.htm. The average velocities of Benjamin 392 over Chrony test using 8 pumps are : The maximum velocity for this gun is 685 FPS ( about 209 meters per second). They hold all the answers you need. Residents of Chicago, IL cannot buy CO2 powered rifles, pistols or revolvers directly from us. when the pump arm is fully open, I hear a hiss of air. Forget stuck pellets you wont have any if you put at least 3 pumps in the gun. Is 15 yards too close for this gun? Hope everyone here had a great holiday. It seems to be shooting very well, but I was wondering what I should do to test the sights to see if they are adjusted correctly. At Wal Mart you should be able to find Benjamin Sheridan diabolo pellets. And if I can actually pull it off. I am glad I did not pay the extra for the easy-pump modification. At both Amazon and Walmart.com, it's just under $150. I was thinking of using a durable, yet pliable plastic of some sort. It has a transition-style pump, that attemps to transition from a front-pumper to an underlever. Thats the problem with testing pellets. I tried to get her to look at the IZH specs, but you know how women are. Questions are what Im here for. Hey B.B. This blog is nearly 4 years old and there are almost 800 individual posts like this one. I assume this is normal since the gun is only a day old and seems to function fine but I just wanted to make sure. I recently purchased the 392 to help control the rabbit population in my yard and garden. Now, you ask if B-Square scope rings will clamp onto a 3/8 dovetail. It belonged to one of my uncles and the only thing I know about the gun is that it dates back to the early 1940s. BB, Well whatever you call it, it was loud. The only question is whether the rings will stop where the scope tube is smooth, because the Bug Buster is short and has a very limited mounting area. The pull is very comfortable, better than many of my smoke-rifles. The Benjamin 347 is a single-shot, multi-pump pneumatic made by the Benjamin Air Rifle Company of St. Louis from 1969 through 1992. The peep sight used to be a very simple affait to install. The receiver is steel and has a longer scope rail than the pneumatic, so it is much easier to scope. Dont touch the scope when handling the rifle. I owned a Crosman 76 (?) Take a look at the Webley Exocet. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, Learn more how customers reviews work on Amazon. Quick alert - the debate A story is told of three Native American hunters. I was shooting with open sights. Close but not exact. Gamos take thousands of shots to become really good and smooth, while a Weihrauch breaks in in about 1,000 shots. Lightweight at 5.5-pounds for easy carrying afield. You cant kill a squirrel deader than dead. I read somewhere that if oyu do not do this the valve alignment can prematurely get screwed up. No prob! BB, i want this gun but i dont know if i should get it is this gun have accuracy and will it take down a squirel for instance with out causing 2 much pain thanks. Well gee buddy whats that telling you about the potential to increase your bottom line? http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/classifieds.html. The cylindrical pellets do not group as tightly as the better diabolos. That keeps the valves closed against dirt. Just a drop per joint should do it. and ive now got a bonus, if i buy the benjamin 392 and ten dollars worth of pellets i get eleven dollars off shipping!! I also got the recommended Williams peep sight. I have achieved very good results with the Benjamin 14.3gr domed pellets. Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. Thanks Ill try your advice. Crow mangums gave .65 with 5 shots. Thanks again, your are providing me quite an education. The power of the Blue Streak and the 392 are identical. Introduced under the Sheridan brand, the Model "C" Silver Streak had a level of power and performance which was unmatched at that time. It all comes down to the barrel. After all, isn't that one of the advantages of a pneumatic over a springer? The 392 is the .22 caliber version of the gun, while the 397 is the .177. What is the best way to hold this rifle? Id like to reseal the gun myself, as Im relativley mechanically inclined, but I dont know where to buy the parts, any ideas? The buttstock is built far to high to get any kind of sight picture. If you are hitting low, you need to raise the rear of the scope. What were the pellets? air compressor, or dive shop tank? Its accurate and inexpensive. And, yes, you CAN see the dot move. I shot at a pellet tin today (diameter 2.5) from 45 yards offhand with gamo hunters and only connected on 6 of 10. would oil for a gas airsoft guns work it is silcon here is the link. If it doesnt, you got away with it. This gun is actually designed to last for years without much upkeep caring. I even shot a few of the Gamos/Beemans in it today, and they were coming closer into range. I am considering, based on your posts, the 22SG, 392 or the blue/silver streak. Is there any way around this? The Sheridan is what I had on my mind. I have a somewhat long wait-the JSBs are out of stock- but I will try to use up my Wadcutters before I get the pellets. I am buying 2 tins of Beeman Kodiaks, 1 box of JSBs and another box of Crosman Premier Domed pellets. So far Ive just used oiled patches and quick-clean pellets. and my mom thinks so too. One thing I still dont understand. Remember, that 1000 f.p.s. I guess you can tell Im a big fan of this air rifle! The value of the gun ranges from $40 in working condition and no finish up to $200 with all the original black nickle over silver nickle and in a good box. The Benjamin has laid to rest many pests and even taken game as large as racoons. The steel barrel doesnt wear in human terms. but there are absolutely no stores selling the IZH near us shes gone to pawn shops specialty stores, gun shops/stores, fleet farm walmart, etc. New, All-weather synthetic Stock and fore grip Monte Carlo styling I noticed alot of friction when I started pumping it the first 20 shots. I wrote a more detailed description, but its a pain retyping it for the third time. How loud is the 392? When I place my cheek down to look at my sights theres about one inch of barrel visible between the front and rear sights. I would limit shots on woodchucks to 30 yards with a factory gun. I intend to purchase a new Benjamin Sheridan Model 392 for my upcoming birthday and to equip it with the Bug Buster 2 scope and mounts. This quest is just beginning. Air gun 101: How Nitro Piston technology can make your shooting sport more exciting? In other words, would four pumps produce in the neighborhood of 500 fps velocities and good accuracy on a repeatable basis? What can I do to fix the problem???? Yes, store your gun with one pump of air. Quality American airguns are still being made affordably!The bottom line with these two air rifles is that theyre out of the past, yet as modern as they have to be. How difficult is it to install the peepsight, and does Pyramid Air install this sight for you if requested? Thank you very much, BB, your blog has been extremely helpful. I enjoy long range plinking, i.e. I never liked scopes on multi pump pneumatics. and i figured out that the pshh noise is coming from this little hole it says air hole do not oil. My range in the back yard is set up at 10, 20, and 25 yards. Webley was unable to provide the spec for Weblube when we asked, therefore I cannot recommend it. In fact, that is the LEADING contributor to scope shift!. His business card says Benjamin, Sheridan and old Crosman model 140/1400 pneumatic air rifle repair. He puts them back to factory specs. From the back porch (30 yards) with rain and wind gusts. I can see the advantage of a diamond shape!!! It needs two-piece rings. or a light very accurate rifle such as the izh 61. The scope gets in the way of pumping. I just purchased a 392. Whats your take on these Germans? This gun is a great choice. However Im a bit confused. i also wanted to know how to get the free shipping. If the accuracy is as respectable as my Gamo Shadow 1000, thats fine. Too, what is the going rate to have the Texas Repairman bring these old guns back to working condition instead of me doing it? I have the resources available and I have a limited understanding of how I could accomplish this feat. I bought my Benjamin in 1964. When I shot the same way at eight pumps, all my groups stayed below 3 inches. well i found out that its a lot easier to get the last two or three pumps if i set the stock on the ground, brace the barrel with my hand, and push the pump handle down with my other hand. just wonderin. It was purchased brand new in 1972, when I was 13 years old. Thats a common error. This is a job for an airgunsmith. The black paint on the barrel and receiver is uneven and in some places looks like it had been hastily spot painted. Lets look at the latest rendition in a line of air rifles that had their beginnings more than 60 years ago. Reviewed in the United States on May 25, 2020. The stock has aswelling part in the foregrip to make pumping easier for shooters. Fortunately, airguns are sold by dealers like Pyramyd Air, but the combined volume of all airgun dealers is small compared to the big box stores. for pests in the back yard with the Talon set on 400fps and for fox hunting with the talon set on Max. Yes thats normal. is the screw supposed to be connected at the bottom of the sight. craigslist.com has no towns in the area that my parents will drive to, and garage sales are also bereft of bb guns of any kind. Other people would like to read your questions and you are hidden here, because of the Google software. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); Ethan Smith is a seasoned marine veteran, professional blogger, witty and edgy writer, and an avid hunter. To fix this, you should add some tapes into the contact point between the foregrip and the barrel to quiet it down. As for the peep seeing the rear sight, can you remove the rear sight? The open sights were a bit off but with a few adjustments I was getting great groups with benjamin .22 diabolos. The 6.4-liter 392 HEMI SRT V8 or "Apache" will continue for another couple of models years in the Charger and Challenger lineups. my gun is 2 days old. Would you choose the Air Venturi or B-Square intermount? )knows almost nothing about guns, except how much fun they can be. IB and BB,Thanks for the advice. Im aware that Crosman (not Pyramyd Air) is offering credit for these old guns. 888-262-4867. This is an awesome gun B.B. This exceptional air arm should be added to the list of rifles capable of taking down medium sized game.-Robert, bb, my old 392 has developed an increasingly loud squeak in the pumping arm(between the metal pieces), can i use pellgunoil on it or just some regular wd40?-roc. As a scope it is very promising on the 392. I realize there may be other inefficiencies besides the light pellet. For any spare parts not listed please feel free to contact us. Will it kill a raccoon and a grey fox if they are in very close range? A superb quality gas ram break barrel. You should be able to take cottontail rabbits. Sometimes the bolts are so stiff that they dont move as readily. Too many problems. It could be my failing eyesight, too. Take a look. Can you help me. I got my 392 via regular land transport (2 days) today. First, Id like to thank you and the others for the great info and help ordered a 392 from Pyramyd. This is what bb has to say about them.George PenaGeorge is a Texan who fixes American pneumatics. People love its beautiful fit and finish, reliability, durability, accuracy, and recoilless. Specs Manufacturer Benjamin Caliber .22 Velocity 685 fps Condition New Ammo Type Pellets Action Bolt-action Barrel Style Rifled What you are doing is using a two-point brace. Pyramyd Air has a bunch of used scopes. If you have done that, the valve has too much pressure or the hammer to open it. Im already having luck with the sites u gave me thx!! I like the way this sight looks. They differ in some small ways, but caliber is the biggest. i need something to get me out of the house and away from the computer, tv, ps2, etc. Hold the gun with the right hand as close the the pump arm joint as possible. I went to make one last adjustment to the elevation and part of the tip on top for the flat head screw driver popped right off so I broght it back and exchanged it for a new one. It seems to me that the peep sight hole would just be bigger and blurrier. Box & Manual Benjamin Sheridan 397PA Air Pump Pellet Gun Rifle 4.5mm .177 . 2, this is a major flaw. It still shoots like new and neverneeded any repair. Buyer beware, if you buy this rifle then you better be ready to hate life. I dont want to scratch up the black-on-brass finish. I would give you some general references, but they are about firearms in general and you probably want books on sights, alone. It has been a pleasure doing business with you. The pins are too small and they loosen up from use. So my question to you is, what is a springer thats good for accuracy in this price range? I believe that is the problem. It doesnt sound bad, but Ive never heard of it before. writes a new article every day Monday-Friday), scroll down to the bottom of the article and click on comments. Glad I asked! I want to shoot crows in my backyard. ben 100% Acrylic Exterior Flat Finish 541 ben 100% Acrylic Exterior Low Lustre Finish 542 ben 100% Acrylic Exterior Soft Gloss Finish 543 ben Chalkboard Paint 308 (discontinued) ben Premium Interior Acrylic Paint & Primer Eggshell N626 ben Premium Interior Acrylic Paint & Primer Matte N624 ben Premium Interior Acrylic Paint & Primer If I pump it 8 times or so and let it sit for two or three minutes until I fire, it loses all it's power. I just bought and received a Benjamin 392 after reading this blog. and when the lever is pulled back u insert the pellet clip? or a long tube with a hole in it? He now shares his income from this prestigious job with his wife and one kid. Two are smart, the other somewhat ignorant. I cant say enough about this rifle. While the 392 is in no way any worse than the old one, itrs also no better in terms of performance. The 3X9 would be a good compromise and might help with sighting in. the rear sight has broken off. I dont believe in scopes on multi-pump pneumatics. I know youre on a budget, but you cant shoot for free. Is there something else under $200 that I should consider. After that, its anyones guess, except that I dont find pointed pellets to be as accurate as domed one. That along with B.B. I will turn it up for a higher impact point and all of a sudden the next few shots will fall to far to the left and move a few clicks up from its last impact point. If you hear anything from Volvo and can give us an update, please do. Thanks.-Rob, B.B.-At the top of every pump, i.e. Rick is another guy who has been doing this for several decades, and hes very methodical in his work. Ive had a 392 about 3 weeks now, cool little gun, kinda grows on you. What would a dive shop charge to fill up the bottle. Up to five pumps will be easy. Hey BB, tried the cut and paste to no availe. I like the 4X32 mini AO Bug Buster and the BSA Huntsman 3X12 X50. Thank you very much for your time.-Robert. Should I write my check out to Pyramyd Air Gun Mall? The solution for this is to drill the holes larger and tap them with larger threads. 150 dollars is a lot of money (for me) and get many ideas of wat else i can buy with it( i guess im an impulse shopper) what is the izhs accuracy at about 30-40 yards? It's a reasonable price if you consider that all parts of this gun are made of genuine hardwood and metal. And you must hunt in season with a license. The brass barrel is anti-corrosive compared to the steel one and doesnt rust easily. Guns besides Gamo and RWS. He really enjoys it and its exactly what he wanted. I remember what an ordeal getting it was! And does the term breaking in refer to wearing the rifleing down some? What pieces would I need to install a system like this? The trigger guard was thinner and blued. Stamped metal parts on the unit were left with rough edges as well. Now that when I pump.. it just glides thru very smoothly and does not generate air. I had a Crosman 111 pistol with a brass barrel from aound 1950-54 and it was a tackdriver. Gotcha. By the way, my own credit card info was stolen and used to by jewelry in Japan, so I know how your parents feel. Having never seen a hardwood pellet gun, and with the looks of it I have to have one. If you are talking about a small house rat, five pumps should do the trick without over-penetration. I havent heard that the Crosman Intermounts were not good, but Ill let our other readers comment on them. Then cock and shoot it again (no pellet) and listen to hear if any gas escapes. The gun isnt made to be sighted at 10 feet or even 10 yards. Good question. Six pumps on balance pointI got a 1 and 11/16 inch group with a firm grip (average 2 and 3/16 inch) , and a 2 and 4/16 inch group with a loose grip (average 2 and 4/16). Would anyone that owns a Benjamin 392 happen to know the part no. Either caliber will work for you and there wont be enough difference to see. 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